Techniques Behind Modern Web
4 Dec
Dreamweaver, the web IDE created by Macromedia now belongs to Adobe, was once the default tool for serious web developers but now seems fading out from its first position.
Still Dreamweaver is a powerful tool for creating web layout or modifying web UI on fly, I found myself not to use it for developing web applications with heavy JavaScript feature requirements.
Just yesterday Adobe announced to cuts 600 jobs as a result of missing revenue target. Of course, the economic downturn certainly hits the company but in the statement Adobe admits that the demand for its new Creative Suite 4 (CS4) is “weaker than expected”.
You can buy Dreamweaver as a part of CS4 at $1,799 with Adobe InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, Fireworks and Acrobat Pro enclosed that obviously targets designers rather than developers. Or you can buy it alone at $399 price tag per license.
On the other hand, the latest Aptana Studio prices at $99 only for professional offer or you can use it for absolutely free if you don’t require advanced features (that you may hardly ever need) or supports.
Putting aside the price differences that may be (arguably) offset by more solid quality Dreamweaver provides, Aptana Studio is designed from the beginning for modern web developers with supports for PHP, Rails, Python, Adobe AIR (oops), and iPhone app development.
Aptana Studio also supports better JavaScript development by integrating all popular JS libraries like Dojo, Prototype, jQuery, Mootools, ExtJ etc into the suite. Yes, with some extensions, Dreamweaver can provide code-assistance for some JS libs but they are not as natural as Aptana’s does and that is not a total solution for developers.
Built on Eclipse framework much famous for the flexibility, Aptana’s IDE inherits plugin system that allows you to add virtually any functionality you like via thousands of Eclipse plugins available for free (thank open-source community) while the number of Dreamweaver’s extensions cannot match even partially.
I’m not only one person recognizing Dreamwaever has become less important tool for developers, Dion Almaer, Ajaxian, said unpleasant news about it too:
- There was a time in the past that everyone used it
- A lot of designers still use it, but developers don’t
- Developers poo poo it.
So, I wonder if any web developer is still using Dreamweaver for ordinary work and why?
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i still use Dreamweaver now but may try other tool slowly. Dreamweaver is still relevant so far.
I’m not using DW anymore. I’m a mac user and I’m hooked with Coda and textmate. I’ve used Aptana Studio (free version) for some small projects and I’ve found it really cool too.
j.
I used to use Dreamweaver but then I discovered Aptana and haven’t looked back since. My main reason for using Dreamweaver (back in the MX days) was because it had FTP support built into it. But now that I’m using subversion to backup and deploy my code, I have no real use for Dreamweaver. Some of the latest versions of Dreamweaver is just large, bloated, and overpriced. You can thank Adobe for that.
I fully recommend Aptana for anyone doing web development.
I’m using Dreamweaver and I really enjoy it. That being said I’ve downloaded the Aptana Studio Eclipse plugin and have tried it out but haven’t fully switched over..
With this prices I don’t know why they wonder their sales are low.
We still use DWMX only because of DW templates and libraries in one of our sites. We never bothered to upgrade MX.
We use Aptana for all our php coding.
Dreamweaver isn’t really good for much. It writes horrible html markup, DW templates are the biggest pain to a developers existence besides Internet Explorer, and it’s heavy.
Use textmate + CSSedit.
I am a ColdFusion developer, so DW plays nice for what I do. Coming out next year some time is a CF IDE, code named Bolt, for based on Eclipse and the CFEclipse plugin. This will likely get me away from DW if Bolt lives up to expectations.
The only way to really learn to do web development is to ditch the WYSIWYG editors and code by hand. Understanding markup means getting up close and personal with it. The problem with dreamweaver is that it produces some ugly code that will never validate. You say, but it has tools to clean up after yourself, well if you don’t break away from WYSIWYG you’ll never learn.
I do not use and do not allow my developers use DW in our company. Only our graphic designer use it to apply style and HTML into our code.
We are software development, media company. We make php C# ASP.NET and flash web app. We use Eclipse PDT and NuSphere for PHP, VS for .NET of course.
I will try Aptana again. Thanks
No, I dont use Dreamweaver at all anymore.. I code in Topstyle Pro
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I used Dreamweaver for many years, but started getting fed up of everything being so slooooowwww! So I looked for an alternative and came across Aptana. I’ve now been using it for over a year and think it’s a fantastic program and getting better all the time. I certainly won’t be using Dreamweaver again.
I prefer Dreamweaver, cause it’s a complete solution for web designers/developers. But Aptana is (in my opinion) just for javascript/ajax developers. You can count on dozen of features in Dreamweaver that you may never find in any other tool.
I’m using Aptana for about a year now, but it looks like i’ll switch to DW soon – there are too many annoying bugs appeared recently in Aptana.
I’ve used DW since the days of DW3. Lately I’ve tried a few other tools including Aptana, but for simple projects DW’s FTP really beats them all. However I am going to revisit Aptana as more and more of my work is using SVN.
Is there any possibility to create dreamweaver’s like templates in aptana or eclipse?
How it could be done?
p.s. Please, send an anwer to email, if you have it.
Tested Aptana for Mac today. I am a bit disappointed that APtana doesn’t provide WYSIWYG feature. Just a basic web scripts editor plus FTP support. Still prefer Dreamweaver.
Aptanna has that great support for the js libraries which is seamless by the way. The completion of even html5 tags is a godsend . Dreamweaver hasn’t seen the time of day on my machine in some time
Aptana has several cool features to help edit code.
But, dreamweaver has very handy templates, somewhere better code completion. Dependent files handling and other stuff.
I’ve been using dreamweaver only since version CS3, before I was using Homesite. I’m not using WYSIWYG features, but I really like some features of dreamweaver that don’t have analog in Aptana.
I was trying to accommodate to Aptana, but after few days of usage I understand that I have everything I need in Dreamweaver + Aptana doesn’t have some of this features.
Maybe DW is a little bit weaker with java script then Aptana, but not as xhtml editor.
And price is the last thing I will care about
p.s. As you can notice, most of comments tread down Aptana
The first IDE was told and taught for web development was Dreamweaver. I never liked the fact that it was slow. But i have to give it thumbs up for its WYSIWYG features. Later on the road, i started learning coding and started exploring different IDEs. I met Aptana and i haven’t moved to any other IDE from there on.
There are two kinds of programmers in this world. The “get it done quick” or “have it done correctly”. The “get it done quick”k programmers would prefer Dreamweaver and its WYSIWYG features. In the other hand, the “have it done correctly” would prefer Apatana for its coding assistance.
I am one of those “have it done correctly” who hates Dreamweaver for creating too much unnecessary junk code.
Actually there are a much more kinds of programmers in this world…
WYSIWYG would not make programming (or actually “coding”) quicker. It will make it different and less optimal.
And Aptana is not faster then DW. It’s also a little bit “laggy”.
Aptana and DW is just different. Both has their cons and pros but I prefer DW more. Maybe because I get used to it and because Aptana doesn’t have some necessary features like DW.
Don’t be a snob -__-
I’ve been using DW since the MX days. I never use its WYSIWYG visual editor, just its code editor. It’s one of the best tools if not the best out there for HTML and CSS coders. It just has so many of the features all-in-one that I need, from regular expression support, batch search and replace features, css code libraries, and several other great formatting tools. I’ve tried Aptana but found it to be laggy and lacking necessary features. Also, DW supports W3C code validation, so I always have correct standard code.
My experience with Aptana
1) Install Aptana
2) Setup workspace and files
3) Cannot find “Compare with Remote”
4) Cannot find way to specify “Compare with … ” program
5) Uninstall
Back to Dreamweaver 8
I am using aptana in developing my scripts. Do you know a site that teaches you with the shortcuts and some stuff to make things a bit faster?
I’ll check out Aptana. Using DW now.
for web designers DW is ok, but for coders any thing like notepad++ is enough which is light weight fast and feature rich.
Hi everybody, Im trying all sorts of tools. I started with dreamweaver because of it’s learning curve. Now im trying to use aptana, zend studio, eclipse pdt. I all that they are somewhat similar, but for projects using git, having an eclipse based ide, makes things much easier. One thing i miss in an eclipse based ide is the css code completion with makes css coding much faster. If you know of any plugins that implements that into an eclipse based ide. please let me know. Coming back to what ide is best, it all depends on which one you will more productive with, some people can do more with a basic text editor, than other with all tools together.
what about microsoft expression , i’m using experession studio 4 with microsoft sharepoint designer ……….. great alternative for adobe DW!!!!
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